rice as a potential nominee. >> well, i think susan rice is imminently qualified and capable of being secretary of state. my only concern is political, and it is that the president uses up so much of his good will as he begins his second term that it does not last long enough for him to get through some of the major initiatives that we all hope will be brought forth like an energy policy. there are some -- there are dangers either way, if he goes with kerry, there is a political concern about the seat in massachusetts. so i don't know. it's not going to be an easy decision for the president, and nothing seems to have ever been easy for him since he was sworn in. >> let me ask really quickly as a new session of congress is sworn in in january. you're chairman of the congressional black caucus. what is your top goal for the new session? >> to support very strongly the president's jobs bill. in all of the discussions that we're having about the debt ceiling and the deficit, there's little, if any, talk about jobs. that's what we've got to create. and the economy has changed appreciably s